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There's an argument that idiots use when arguing about whether or not homosexuality is a bad thing, unnatural, etc., that totally drives me spare. It's the argument that homosexuals do not have children. This argument is usually in conjunction with the argument that homosexuality is not genetic, but rather a choice, since it could not possibly be passed on in the genes.

To which I want to say, "Hello! Sitting right here! Eldest of four, and my father was a homosexual. What the fuck are you talking about?"

The idea that homosexuals don't have children is weirdly, massively wrong. Quite aside from the various technological possibilities now available, I suspect that homosexuals have been busy having kids since as long as there were, you know, people. There is the incredible social pressure to marry and have kids. Many people have married and procreated with people they didn't particularly care for. Some of them were homosexual. And the drive to have children isn't tied to sexual orientation. Lots of people have had sex with partners they didn't particularly care for in order to procreate. This is one more way to try to ignore the real, lived complexity of people's lives. And it attempts to erase me. Which really, really pisses me off.

Date: 2014-02-23 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com
I don't suppose that bi people who choose a gay lifestyle, will ever be denied gay privileges because they don't have the right gene/s?

Date: 2014-02-23 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
Bisexual invisibility and biphobia in the queer community are real things; but they are also not at all what Lydy is talking about. (If I know you and you'll be at Minicon, find me and ask me.)

Date: 2014-02-23 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
This seems very weird and sideways to what I was talking about.

I didn't assert, nor do I necessarily believe, that homosexuality is a genetic trait. It might have a genetic component. However, sexual behavior is, as I've tried to say, a complicated human behavior, and I doubt that it is entirely one thing or the other.

I can't help but think that you're trying to derail things, unless you are trying to be funny. If you're trying to be funny, I totally missed the joke.

Date: 2014-02-23 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com
Just looking too far ahead, perhaps.

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