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"...were it not that I have bad dreams."

Well, not so much bad as insufficient.

For those of you out there in Candyland, who haven't been subjected to my tales of misery and woe, of late, that damn sleeping sickness has gotten worse, again. It is, in fact, threatening my job, again. I've been sleeping through my alarm, getting in an hour, or even two hours late, and in one memorable case (well, I don't remember it), I fell asleep at my desk. I'm told that my boss walked me to the break room where I slept on the couch for two hours. I don't remember any of it. Evidently, they noticed I was asleep because I was snoring. Deeply embarrassing.

Want to know how embarrassing this can be? Last summer, I was hanging out in the Tor office, waiting for Patrick and Teresa to finish up their work day, so that we could go out and do something -- I don't remember what. I was reading The Viscount of Adrilankah on my PalmPilot, all cheerful like. I'm sitting in the main lobby (which didn't look like much, really, since they were in temporary space, but still) and I gather I fall asleep. The first thing I know about it, Teresa is gently shaking my shoulder and suggesting that I move into her office, away from prying eyes. Evidently, some one had kindly called Teresa and said there was a girl snoring in the lobby, and wasn't she a friend of Teresa's, and shouldn't maybe something be done? Didn't threaten my job, but it was way more embarrassing. (What did I do when I got to Patrick and Teresa's office? I sat down on the floor, cross-legged, rested my elbows on my knees and my chin in my hands, and went back to sleep.)

I do realize that there are many worse disabilities. However, I would just like to say that I really hate mine.

So, being a sensible person (yeah,right), I went to see a neurologist at Abbott Northwestern Neuroscience Clinic to ask for another sleep study. This would make it the second in two years, and the fourth, total. In case you didn't know, this is a lot of sleep studies for a person, even a person with sleep apnea. I think it might even be rather more frequent than most narcoleptics have to put up with, but only knowing one narcoleptic, I really have no idea.

I went, I slept under supervision. To be truthful, for a moment, I don't really mind that all that much. The only thing that's actually annoying is that I have to wear a nightgown or something similar. I do not normally wear clothes to bed. On the other hand, it's not nice to embarrass the tech. I went to bed at my usual time, wired up like a Christmas tree, and was woken up the next morning. They've improved the wiring process somewhat, which was nice. The best bit was that they didn't use what amounts to a soft clothes pin on my index finger to keep track of my pulse (I think that was it) during the night. No matter how gentle the pressure is, by morning it hurts like the devil from the constant compression. This time, they had some cool sensor which they simply taped on to my finger. No compression.

The next day, they did nap studies, which I do mind. Every two hours, they put you to bed to see if you fall asleep. If you do, they wake you up in 15 minutes. If you don't, they wake you up in 20 minutes. By the second or third nap, you're tireder than if you'd had no naps at all. What they're measuring is how quickly you fall asleep, and whether you drop into REM sleep during those naps. REM sleep is an indicator of narcolepsy. I never hit REM during my naps, but I fell asleep abnormally quickly. I also had a couple of episodes where I had a very difficult time staying awake between naps.

Monday last, I saw the doctor, who showed me all the cute charts and graphs (but no picture with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one telling what each one was to be used against me -- basically pictures of sleeping people are pretty dull). The average human being needs approximately 20% REM sleep per their night's rest. My score? 2%. No wonder I'm falling asleep at my desk. And other places. The graph also showed that I spent most of my time in the first and second stages of sleep, rarely reaching deep sleep. Also, the graph was way jagged; it looked like a comb. Normal people have something more like a sine wave.

Diagnosis? None. He said that he would write a letter to my psychiatrist, suggesting some drugs we might try, and asking her if there were any she could take me off of. This is pretty sensible. These symptoms are real consistent with negative side-effects of many psych drugs.

I like this guy, Dr. Trusheim, a lot better than the doctor I saw last time, whose conclusion was that I just wasn't getting enough sleep. He said that I shouldn't take anything to help stay awake, since that might trigger a manic episode, but drinking a lot of coffee might help, and going to be earlier was really the only answer. He did not confer with my psychiatrist at all. Now, he's one of the foremost neurologists in the country working on sleep disorders, so I find myself wondering, was I just not interesting enough, or were my brain wave results completely different two years ago? (I intend to call the hospital and ask for a copy of that sleep study. I know I had a copy, but my filing system isn't, and I have no idea how long it would take me to find it. Fifteen minutes? Fifteen hours? Easier to ask them to fax it.)

I see my psychiatrist next week, so we'll see what she wants to do. On the one hand, it feels good to be doing something. On the other hand, I'm dreading the something. Changing psych meds is a big deal. I mean, we could easily be talking a year of my life spent in various forms of emotional hell, titrating various chemicals in an attempt to find something that will work without killing me. I really, really hate messing around with my drugs. On the other hand, I need to find an answer to this falling asleep thing. I got up this morning, fed the cats, fed the fish, poured myself a cup of coffee, sat down to drink the coffee and watch the fish for a bit, just like I always do, every morning that I'm not running disasterously late. I just keeled over, and woke up at the time I should have been at work. I was an hour and forty-five minutes late. On the gripping hand, maybe I'll get my mind back. It's been rapidly going to mush, lately. The other day, I lost almost half my times tables. Admittedly, I've never had them down cold, but I was consistently getting four times eight wrong, and six times three. My verbal skills have reached a new low, and I'm having more trouble shifting from internal to external information flow. I rarely understand the first or second word that someone says to me because it takes me too long to readjust to listening to speech as opposed to whatever my brain had been doing. I've been mishearing things a lot more often, too. Don't ask me, maybe I'm just becoming deaf. It doesn't seem like it, though.

I spoke to a career counselor, last week. I hate my job, I'm insecure about being able to keep it, and I need a job with flex time. I have no ideas about what to do. I've never had any imagination when it came to jobs. I need something with flex time and insurance, and if I'm going to bother changing jobs, it should really be to something I like more than what I'm doing now. Her suggestions? Read the papers and other places that list jobs. Like I've never done that before. I can't see what I'm like at work. When I read a job description, I can't tell if I would be any good at it. I can tell if it's a no-hoper, but the rest? No clue. She also suggested that I look into disability. *snort* Maybe I should. Maybe they would help me.

My girlfriend Beth suggested that I find a rich guy to marry. You know, on an arrangement sort of basis. I think I only know one unmarried rich guy, and I a) don't think he'd marry me, and b) I'm not sure if the consequences would be worth not having to work, anymore. Marrying people's weird. No matter how much you tell your friends and family that nothing has changed, people will insist on treating you differently. I found that out almost 20 years ago, when Nigel and I got married as much because it was a lark as anything else. People are strange. Man, you should have seen how his mother and grandmother reacted. It was like a musical farce, the way they fell over each other intalling us in the only double bed in the house (after having been living together for something like six years). The funniest part was that the boxsprings were noisy. I mean, rolling over made it sound like you were having wild, jungle sex. Even if you wanted to, you couldn't have concentrated for all the noise. Bit I appear to be tangentalizing.

So, that is my tale of woe. Honest, I don't really need sympathy. I'm like, good with it, inso far as one can be good with something this annoying. However, I bitch recreationally, and I think that this is a truly monumental thing to bitch about. Great material.

Hey, if anybody has an idea of gainful employment that I might be good at, and not hate passionately, email me, would you?

Re: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream

Date: 2005-02-11 05:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
i am sorry you're having to deal with this, and being as i have occasional bad insomnia for a few weeks, i can empathize. sleep problems have such far-reaching effects.

have you ever read what color is your parachute by richard bolles? i haven't read it since 1994, but i really liked it then, and it's been quite helpful to various people to whom i've recommended it regarding finding more fulfilling employment.

Re: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream

Date: 2005-02-11 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
have you ever read what color is your parachute by richard bolles?

I keep on meaning to. But no, I haven't. Truth is, I just hate this whole thing. I'm tired of working, always being behind, short on sleep, short on time, short on life -- people tell me that when you like your job, things aren't nearly that, well, short. I wouldn't know. Be interested in finding out, but I wouldn't know.

I'll chase down the book, I guess. What help? What harm? Chicken soup for the job search.

Re: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream

Date: 2005-02-11 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
I keep on meaning to. But no, I haven't. Truth is, I just hate this whole thing. I'm tired of working, always being behind, short on sleep, short on time, short on life

Okay, so I've been working with a spin-off of Jungian psychology for a couple of years, so take this as it fits. Does that sentence sound to you like part of an explanation for the sleeping? (Not to rule out drugs, etc.) If life feels like an economy of scarcity, and time and sleep are scarce, it makes sense to me that the body would grab opportunities to sleep. And bodies are selfish--they don't care if the times they grab to sleep (or to cramp up or to have an allergic reaction or to get sick) are inconvenient or inappropriate.

If I were in your shoes, I'd take a look at what that economy of scarcity was like for me, and how I could explore it ...

Meanwhile, many hugs and good luck!

Re: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream

Date: 2005-02-11 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
If I were in your shoes, I'd take a look at what that economy of scarcity was like for me, and how I could explore it ...

My life is an economy of scarcity. I'm depressed, almost all the time. One of the costs of that is that it takes me a great deal longer to start things, simple things, like house cleaning, scheduling, deciding what to have for dinner -- darn near anything. Time is an incredibly valuable commodity. The loss of time costs money, peace of mind, social contact, sleep, hell, lack of personal hygiene. Medicated, things are much better now. It used to be that getting up off the couch and getting to work was a major undertaking, and often the only thing I managed to accomplish in a day.

I'm working on all of this, of course. The lack of sleep is probably tied in, but I don't think it's a simple psychological link. I think that there's a lot of physiological stuff associated. Seriously, 2% REM is a BAD thing. I sincerely doubt that's just because my life is a mess. That looks like bad biochemistry to me.

Of course, this leads us into the whole question of soma vs. psyche, and that gets abstract darn fast. What I know about myself is that tweaking the neurotransmitters via modern drugs has been the most effective approach. What that really means is an interesting excercise, which I leave to the reader. Me, I'm just grateful I didn't live a hundred years ago. Or even fifty. Med tech good.

Re: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream

Date: 2005-02-11 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com


Nothing in the above was intended to imply any lack of physiochemical causation, any disrespect for your meds, or (heaven forfend!) any implication whatsoever that you aren't wise about the ways of your body.

Re: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream

Date: 2005-02-11 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
I'm sorry. I get twitchy on the topic. The number of lectures I've gotten on how I should just, you know, excercise more, or how I'm just fooling myself into needing drugs, or taking the easy way out (has anybody figured out why that is a bad thing) has made me hyper-sensitive.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "If I were in your shoes, I'd take a look at what that economy of scarcity was like for me, and how I could explore it ..." Could you explain further?

Date: 2005-02-11 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marykaykare.livejournal.com
Um sweetie, this whole brain turning to much thing sounds, like, serious. Is it possible your shrink and/or GP could see you before next week? No really, sounds very ungood and worrying.

When I married my first husband people went all weird like you said, but when Jordin and I married it didn't seem to change much of anything or anyone. A lot's changed in 20 years. I'm just sayin.

You have my phone number and email and IM and stuff if you need me.

HUGS

MKK

Date: 2005-02-11 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
Um sweetie, this whole brain turning to much thing sounds, like, serious. Is it possible your shrink and/or GP could see you before next week? No really, sounds very ungood and worrying.

Earlier than next Tuesday? You must be joking. I think it may be the latest drug she put me on, Lamictal. Although I've had word troubles for a couple of years, now. They've become a lot more slippery. Like, isn't there a word for going off on a tangent while writing that starts with a "d" but isn't divert? I couldn't think of it (assuming there is one) which is why tangentalizing happened. I'll talk to Karen on Tuesday, and we'll see. Hell, the problems with language and stuff could easily be because of the lack of REM. Insufficient REM is known to make you stupid.

Date: 2005-02-11 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
I love you. I hate you.

That is precisely the word I hunted for for a half an hour, yesterday. I guess I'm glad to know that it exists. It's disturbing that I really couldn't come up with it, though.

Date: 2005-02-11 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marykaykare.livejournal.com
Well, okay Tuesday. I mean next week could have been Friday.

As you know, Bob, I have that word slippery thing too, nouns dammit. They've taking to hiding from me. But what you're missing is a verb and that's really not a good sign. (divigate? diverge?)

Lack of REM can do lots of bad stuff incuding induce psychosis. Yeah talk to the shrink about it.

MKK

Date: 2005-02-11 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
As you know, Bob, I have that word slippery thing too, nouns dammit. They've taking to hiding from me. But what you're missing is a verb and that's really not a good sign. (divigate? diverge?)

Yeah. Nominal aphasia is normal for people our age. Nouns tend to just go poof. There's away around it, though. If you talk around the noun, like, "Big box thing, with doors, it goes up and down ---" the word will typically pop up: "Elevator!" This does not seem to happen with verbs, at least not for me.

I believe that losing verbs is actually a different problem than losing nouns, and somewhat more serious. It's possible that the psych drugs really have rotted my brain. I said, years ago, that if that happened, it would be worth it, just for the few years of living without the hammering misery that I'd been suffering for so many years before. If my brain really is going, I wonder how much comfort that will be. It is a risk I knew I was taking. I guess we'll just have to watch as the saga unfolds. (Mind, I'm still pretty damn smart, and I still have better verbal skills than 90% of the population, and I'm afraid I'm merely being accurate here, though I cannot pretend that I'm not proud of this. Still, a downward trend is disturbing.)

Date: 2005-02-11 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com
The best bit was that they didn't use what amounts to a soft clothes pin on my index finger to keep track of my pulse (I think that was it) during the night. No matter how gentle the pressure is, by morning it hurts like the devil from the constant compression. This time, they had some cool sensor which they simply taped on to my finger. No compression.

Woo! Did it also not have a 15-watt red light bulb in it, or am I the only one who had that in the clothespin thingy?

Date: 2005-02-11 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
Woo! Did it also not have a 15-watt red light bulb in it, or am I the only one who had that in the clothespin thingy?

I always did wonder what that light was for. Nope, no light this time, either. I think they issue all the clothespins with red lights, though. Perhaps it's meant to be cautionary. Caution: wearing clothespins, even padded ones, hurts.

Date: 2005-02-11 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com
I was under the impression it was there to keep me awake during the brief periods Leo wasn't lecturing me on my writing career.

Date: 2005-02-11 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
Man, you had the worst sleep study ever!

I didn't find the light distracting. My problem is I can't stay awake. Falling asleep is not a problem. Bam. Pow. Out like a light.

Date: 2005-02-17 12:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] boxofdelights
I took my son to the emergency room a couple of times when he was a baby, before his asthma got diagnosed. They said the red light they clipped to his toe gave them a reading of his blood oxygenation level, which would also be relevant to diagnosing sleep apnea, wouldn't it?

Date: 2005-02-11 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Just a notion, but I wonder if hynosis could help--relaxing and telling yourself that you're going to dream more.

This isn't something I've heard about as working, but it doesn't seem likely to hurt.

Date: 2005-02-11 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
Interesting. Dunno. Someone tried to teach me self-hypnosis to control my menstrual cramps. Worked about as well as Tylenol -- that is to say, not at all.

Date: 2005-02-11 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com
What kinds of work qualify for you as hateful/not hateful? What kinds are you qualified to do? I'll keep my eyes and ears open and let you know if I run into anything that might be a fit.

Personally, I don't like the idea of marrying for the sake of economic support. Personalities are involved; how closely entangled can you stand to be with this or that particular person? Maybe it works for some people but it seems chancy to me.

Date: 2005-02-11 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com
If you marry well enough, then you can often arrange to keep your own household. You do have to welcome him into your bed, of course. Assuming he's not downright repulsive, this is probably quite do-able for me. Hell, who knows, he could be fun. (The one unmarried, rich guy I know is reputed to be very, very good.) The real sticking point is likely to be monogamy. I don't do that, and no one can really pay me enough for that. Guys who "buy" you often feel that they should be able to have sole rights.

I have all sorts of different emotional values that I put on sex, depending on the circumstances and the person. One night stands and long term relationships, and many of the things in between. They are what they are. Paying off a debt is merely a socially sanctioned form of prostitution. It's not something I'm deeply skilled at, but I'm willing to learn. I'm too old to turn pro, these days. There was once a time when I could have made pretty good money at it. Little problems, like it being illegal, and my husband being totally freaked out by the idea, were what kept me from giving it a go. Sex for money is one of the oldest transactions ever. Even bonoboes indulge in behavior like that, only they use food instead of money.

Date: 2005-02-11 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com
In my first sexual experiences I didn't put any emotional weight on the act. After some encounters I found myself feeling very disatisfied with that. I was unhappy that anyone could get that close to me without making an emotional connection, or without, apparently, recognizing those qualities in me that set me apart as a unique individual to love and cherish - even in preference to other individuals. It distressed me to realize that I had trusted my most vulnerable feelings to anyone who had little vested interest in my lasting happiness and well-being. I felt that I'd acted as if I was less than the whole person I am, let myself be treated as less, and that I'd done little better by the others involved. I was mistaken. I try not to repeat my mistakes.

I realize that not everyone (it seems hardly ANYone I know) feels the same about these things. But, there ya go. If I run into any rich men who want to hire a wife, I can see about introducing you.

Vent Away

Date: 2005-02-11 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidschroth.livejournal.com
I do hope that things get better for you.

Date: 2005-02-11 06:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laurel
This sounds so very familiar. Sigh.

Good luck, I hope they figure something out soon, with the minimal amount of fussing with meds.

Date: 2005-03-24 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halimede.livejournal.com
Diagnosis? None. He said that he would write a letter to my psychiatrist, suggesting some drugs we might try, and asking her if there were any she could take me off of. This is pretty sensible. These symptoms are real consistent with negative side-effects of many psych drugs.

Isn't that called Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome? Neurologist M. Smits here in the Netherlands does research & treatment of same (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10750629&dopt=Abstract). Hmmm, this page has criteria (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:TKXwrqqI8KIJ:courses.brown.edu/Mary_Carskadon-PY0055_F03/sassigadd84.ppt+%22Smits%22+%22dsps%22&hl=nl) that don't quite sound like what you describe. Still, maybe your neurologist should talk to my neurologist about this?

Hi Lydy

Date: 2006-01-05 08:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lydy,
My name is Kenny and I am a college student in Mass. I randomnly came across your blog when I was amusing myself at work. I admit your sleeping situation seems very difficult right now, but hopefully with more medical help the misery will end. But I am really interested in your predicament, I'm about to begin my graduate work in psychotherapy, and it be an absolute honor if you allowed me to talk more with you in hopes of maybe helping you with some of the stress that has accompanied this dehabilitating affliction. I'd like to help in any way I could if possible, ud also be helping me in the process. If it would be easier to communicate here is my email NICKSEVERN@YAHoo.com.

Your pal
Kenny
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